Women's British Open - Epilogue
Yani Tseng's second major championship of 2010 moves her into the #1 spot on the Hound Dog chart (I'll have the full updated list posted in a day or two), a few slim points ahead of Jiyai Shin, Ai Miyazato and Cristie Kerr. With Na Yeon Choi and even the winless Suzann Pettersen and Song-Hee Kim lurking in the vicinity, we have seven rock-solid contenders for Player of the Year. While we're at it, don't count out Paula Creamer, Inbee Park and Morgan Pressel just yet. Yani is the first player to win multiple majors in the same calendar year since Annika Sorenstam in 2005, and she now has seven Hall of Fame points at the age of 21. Whose chances do you like better on reaching the Hall - Tseng or Shin?
Not to take anything away from Yani's win yesterday, but she needed every one of those four shots she was leading by as she began the back nine. Her putting got very erratic and I've never seen her back off of as many shots as she did over the last several holes. Had Katherine Hull's chip at 18 been reasonably good or had her putt from off the green at 17 been a little less hot, the outcome would have probably been different.
Brent Kelley pointed out (thanks for the link, Bill) that Patty Berg technically won her third "major" at a younger age than Tseng. I agree with Brent that treating the old Titleholders Championships as equals to the current majors would be a mistake and that Yani deserves that recognition. Let Berg's feat go on a list of youngest tournament winners but please don't insist that a women's event in 1939 warrants the same consideration as the 2010 WBO.
Despite having two players finish double digits under par, Royal Birkdale played ‘em tough this week with the average score clocking in at 74.26. Only 16 players finished the event under par and only In-Kyung Kim avoided carding at least one round over par. Somehow Inky accomplished that playing in the worst weather of the week (Friday late afternoon) and the second worst weather of the week (Thursday morning).
One of my preseason predictions bit the dust Sunday (depending on how you look at it, it might have died when Tseng and Kerr won the first two majors of the year). With three of 2010's four major championships having been won by prior champions, the trend of first-time major champions definitely did not continue. At least my Paula Creamer prediction was right!
Since virtually everyone in this week's Top 10 is a Top 40 player, I had to go a little farther to pick out a Big Surprise. It's rookie Maria Hernandez, whose T14 is easily her best finish as an LPGA member. Her previous best was T41 at the U.S. Open and she had missed the cut six times in nine starts before Thursday. From my perspective, picking a Big Disappointment is rather difficult too. So this time I'll think like a Brit and be disappointed in defending champ Catriona Matthew, who missed the cut by seven shots.
We now enter the dog days of the LPGA schedule. Over the next eight weeks only three events are on the card. The next two weeks are off, then the Safeway Classic and Canadian Open, another off week on Labor Day weekend, Arkansas and two more off-weeks following that.
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Here's the thing
If a tournament isn’t the same in 1939 as it is today, then why does Berg’s win count as a major championship? That’s on a higher level of importance than what age she was at the time. If you count it as a major, then the age of her at the time should also count. The lack of strength of the field, and is something we’re only guessing at, if its used as a qualification should then be used from the top down for the record books not from the bottom up.
I agree
The Titleholders events (prior to the formation of the LPGA, at least) should not be considered majors. However – if we insist on that distinction, we have opened the door to reclassifying other events too. Who’s to say the 1946 U.S. Women’s Open had any stronger of a field than that year’s Titleholder? We may need to draw this line in pencil…
The LPGA isn't very likely
to re-classify Berg’s pre-1950 wins as not majors. She’s in the HOF and a LPGA founder to consider. Would they have to change her plaque then?
What I think happened in this case is no one calculated Berg’s age at the time of her Titleholders wins. If they did, I think she not Pressel, would be the youngest women’s major champion ever. The further back you go in history with golf, the more likely you are to find statistical mistakes. Golf doesn’t have the recordkeeping of Major League Baseball.
I do stick to what I said earlier, if Berg’s wins are to be counted as majors, her age at the time is also part of the records. The criteria of pre-1950 records should be applied top to bottom not bottom to top.
Hall of Fame chances
> Whose chances do you like better on reaching the Hall – Tseng or Shin?
Tseng now has 7 Hall of Fame points at the age of 21; Shin has 8 points at 22. Shin wins more often (picking up 1 pointers), while Tseng has been picking up points 2 at a time. Each will start picking up a Vare Trophy or Player of the Year now and then.
I give the nod to Shin over Tseng, because Shin has been more consistent. There’s also the International ballot option, which would count LET and JLPGA wins. Advantage Shin here, too.
But 27 points is a long way to go. By comparison, Cristie Kerr is one of the best players of her generation, with 2 majors, but she still needs 11 more points. She had the misfortune of playing Annika and Lorena during their primes. Meg Mallon: FOUR majors and 14 other tournament wins—still needs to buy a ticket to visit the Hall.
too soon
Absolutely, both Shin and Tseng have a LONG way to go to reach 27 points. I don’t have any evidence to back this up, but I think Tseng’s game is more conducive than Shin’s to maintaining a high level of play for 10-12 years. So I like Yani’s chances a little bit better at the moment. Though next time Shin wins, I’m liable to have a different opinion.
Shin has also said
she doesn’t plan to compete out there forever. Like Ochoa and Sorenstam(and Stacy P) she wants to start on a family.
Yani seems to have a pretty remarkable ability to win majors
3 out of the last 11 I think. Is that connected to being a power player?
I still prefer Shin because her ability to win when in contention is incredible – she has only been runner-up on tour once in her career. She doesn’t actually need to be the top player for a decade; simply a few mega-successful years along with wining plenty. If Paula gets to the HoF then I think they’ll probably both be in with her – she had to wait until, what, her fourth year on tour before winning more than 2 points in a single year?
My feeling is that Tseng, Shin and Miyazato are going to be the triumvirate ruling the LPGA, overall, for the next 4-5 years.
The big question for me is whether Michelle Wie cares enough about golf to break into that party – and whether Thompson is an Ochoa-type rather than another Aree or Naree Song, or Michelle Wie (I’m still a bit gobsmacked that Wie only has one win as we approach her 21st birthday (slightly offthread I know)).
by JNT on Aug 3, 2010 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions

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